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Post by machete on Jan 27, 2008 10:10:47 GMT
i kinda wish i hadn't done that. i had 16k coins on him before i suicided =(
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Post by Pillar on Jan 28, 2008 15:32:57 GMT
next time you see calvin on, ask him for 100k coins. dude, he gives that shit out to all his bitches...
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Post by Pillar on Jan 28, 2008 15:33:56 GMT
or, hrm... i'll log on tonight (fuck me in the goatass, batman!) and throw ya a few. think i still have about 3 million or so floating around.
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Post by sinister on Jan 28, 2008 18:04:56 GMT
re: Human necro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orc Necro.
I'll submit this is true because of lack of access to lich, otherwise over the long term, and I mean long term as in what happens after staff hits 100, I'll take the orc.
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Post by Blackened on Jan 28, 2008 19:16:46 GMT
With stat boost traits, other races become a lot more viable. Unfortunately for orc, it will take +3 or 4 stats to get lich? So, if you're willing to wait for 200mil xp for those stats, or random access to a couple int boosters, have at orc. I'd take the str of human or rot damage of h-elf.
This is assuming things stay as is. Dunno what they'll do to the class as time goes on.
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Post by Pillar on Jan 28, 2008 19:44:45 GMT
Introducing... AA'S NEWEST CLASS! The Nogue!
We, the admin of Ancient Anguish, have heard your desperate cries for fairness to the rogue and necromancer classes. So, to be fair to all the rangers and 'ficers out there, we have decided to buff them... by combining them! Yes, rogue theft will still suck ass. No, you will not be able to steal from anyone. Yes, we will constantly downgrade the class because your rituals are too powerful. But, we are going to give you a new ability: Gayness! Sit at the crossroads and swoon over other men (everyone knows there aren't any women on AA, only 50 year old men wishing they were women...)! Cajole them to visit your new house! Be able to finally converse with Levek and Spock in a language they understand!
We hope that this will entice all of the older players to come back to AA. Tell all your friends so they can start the new class and hope the server doesn't crash!
Enjoy!
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Post by sinister on Jan 28, 2008 20:18:04 GMT
*xlaugh* on the Nogue
Certainly, it is far easier to be a human necro than an orc or half-elf *shudder*
The reason I'm still so high on the orc is I'm not completely convinced the lich is the superior undead. Taking the lich component out of the picture, the race argument becomes a little murkier. Although I agree with Rhynst (guide to AA) that it is more of a matter of personal preference.
If Lich is better than Revenant, than Human >>>>> Orc.
Additionally Human str = Orc Str, but orcs have the extra dex. Dwarves have the +1 str over orc and human.
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Post by Gromlakh on Jan 29, 2008 2:11:25 GMT
*xlaugh* on the Nogue Certainly, it is far easier to be a human necro than an orc or half-elf *shudder* The reason I'm still so high on the orc is I'm not completely convinced the lich is the superior undead. Taking the lich component out of the picture, the race argument becomes a little murkier. Although I agree with Rhynst (guide to AA) that it is more of a matter of personal preference. If Lich is better than Revenant, than Human >>>>> Orc. Additionally Human str = Orc Str, but orcs have the extra dex. Dwarves have the +1 str over orc and human. Yeah, the ">>>>" was primarily about lich. Liches are way better than revs, unless there's been some outrageously massive upgrade to them since I stopped playing (and I'm sure we all would have heard Lunger squealing about it if there was!). Current revs take far too much damage and don't deal out that much. Liches deal out nearly as much damage as revs (weapons + spells) and can wear armour so they don't take as much damage. That leaves many more sps for rots, which means more exp., yadda yadda. IIRC, orcsies are 3 int/wis points away from getting lich. So, if you could take an orc and survive only on rev (unless you absolutely whore spidey/nbc) until you can amass the gajillion trait points you'd need for lich, at that point the orc would start taking over. I'd suspect, though, that the human would be far past the point the orc would be in the same amount of time, so it'd probably be only over the super-ridiculous long term that orc would be better.
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Post by tehlung on Jan 29, 2008 3:36:35 GMT
so the orc spends 666 traits (138 int1, 138 wis1, 390 int2 or wis2) to get lich.
yeah they now they can use lich and kill like a human, right? sorry, the human meanwhile spent 666 traits (138 str1, 390 str2, 138 int1 or wis1) and is now much more superior to the orc.
race choice on aa works out like this:
melee class? orc or dwarf (personal str/con vs dex preference) magic class? human super god-mode class(artificer)? i don't know the class mechanics.
case closed.
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Post by machete on Jan 29, 2008 9:48:15 GMT
So what you're telling me is that for your average non power player, human is the way to go
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Post by sinister on Jan 29, 2008 14:20:57 GMT
We're pretty much saying for any necro player, human is the way to go.
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Post by gyn on Jan 29, 2008 17:40:53 GMT
Back in the oldish days revenant was better, having a decent parry and being able to abuse dual arrows. In the middlish? days it's kind of debatable. When I was playing.. I forget my efficiency necro's name, he was number 2 on the list for a short while though! I was using revenant, because they did more damage. When Gyn was a necro I used a lich, because they're so much less stressful and cheaper to play.
THESE days, the ironwood era? You'd have to be crazy or not have much free time to not go lich. The armour available to you if you wanna work for it is SO much better than the minor damage boost from a revenant. And of the races that can get lich easy, human is the best.
ps. for super god mode class, stats are pretty much irrelevant. Every spell hits, there's no int/wis requirements. Being able to eat and drink more is a slight perk, and having a high strength is a bonus but not necessary to wield a 'ficer warhammer. Dwarf has the best additional perks of any race - no-one hates them, they can do shieldhand easily, they mine better, they can use battlehammers, they see in the dark - and a high strength and con doesn't hurt.
oh edit: when they lower the level/concentration bonus on 'ficers, dwarf will still be the best race, you'll just have less toys to play with (no more 2 construct and wands for a spellcrafter). Remove the +concentration per level entirely and just have an increase in skill of making items IMO.
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Post by Pillar on Jan 29, 2008 19:26:47 GMT
Back in the oldish days revenant was better, having a decent parry and being able to abuse dual arrows. i think you mean "use"... is it really abuse if everyone was doing it, there was no law against it, and it was widely accepted? i don't think so. abuse means they were taking advantage of the system, which necros were not. they were merely using the best of what was available. and before notakunt or someone else on a mock high-horse goes off on me, i know all about "revs were not supposed to be able to dual in that fashion". whoopty-do. it's still not abuse.
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Post by tehlung on Jan 29, 2008 19:50:36 GMT
oldish days was SSM parrying lichs. middlish was dualling revs. new school is gay blocking lichs
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Post by Blackened on Jan 31, 2008 23:32:44 GMT
Old days were when I could run around with Elvie, lich (SSM), and rot doing double damage.
When is the nice fix for auto-unwield/rewield coming in? Even just an auto-unwield would be fabulous. Yay two-handed staves.
And yes, I would skill focus 2hs five fucking times just to use Elvie again - if the unwield thing came in. Although, I think they dropped the +str to like +2 for h-elves? Yes, I haven't used it in that long.
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