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Post by orphan on Jul 10, 2009 3:48:51 GMT
Hey guys, I just have a quick question. I was hoping someone could break the stalemate in an arguement I am having with my brother.
We are trying to create the "optimal" Fighter.
He wants to go Elf, because of the +1 dex. And increased Int/Wis. His theory is that he will hit more often with the extra dex, and will be able to disarm more often due to increased sps regeneration.
I said to forget about that because the +3 str more than compensates for those benefits. My theory is that str as a statistic seems to give more "bang" per stat than dex does, especially for a fighter.
Not looking to cause some big stink, we just decided we would go with whatever the following responses from the powerplayers is.
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Post by tehlung on Jul 10, 2009 3:53:18 GMT
A wise piggy once told me that outside of rapier or 2hs, orcs/dwarves/humans > elves. So if he wants to use those two skills exclusively, elf.
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Post by CalviN on Jul 10, 2009 12:58:21 GMT
I vaguely remember posting a piggy book on this topic a while ago. Watered down version... If you're looking for overall, badass fighter, capable of tanking, soloing, bashing, better than any other race, hands down, and still get good skills. Orc. If you're looking for solely bashing, and maybe a little tanking/soloing, and are of the "if I hit it harder, it'll die faster" mentality... but don't mind skilling slower than anything else. Dwarf. If you want to bash, or tank in riposte/parry mode, watching things slowly die as you tickle them to death, and see your skills rocket up faster than anything, knowing that unless you have Elvie, you'll never do as much damage as any of the other races... Elf If you want to be mediocre at everything. Human If you want to suck ass, and you're one of those masochistic sickos that like doing things the slow, painful, worst-possible-choice way, "just because EVERYONE uses the good combos and -I- NEED TO BE DIFFERENT!!!!!!" . Half-elf Me personally, after raising up numerous fighters over lvl 20, one of em to lvl 32, at least one of each race.... anything other than Orc is just for a screw-off/throw-away alt, or so you can put an alt into knigglets or elfdar. But that's just me.
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Post by sinister on Jul 10, 2009 13:18:32 GMT
I have a slightly different interpretation on what race to choose for fighter. Basically I look at it this way. Once I get 100 skill in all the weapon types I want (and I have no interest in 1700), which race is then best suited for my style of play. That being, which race does the most total damage per session while bashing.
My theory on skilling is that it doesn't matter, as long as you play enough you'll get your 100 skill, this is especially true with a fighter.
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Post by CalviN on Jul 10, 2009 20:40:51 GMT
In that case, my answer changes to..... Orc!! And no, I'm not just biased. Highest dex behind elf... highest str behind dwarf.... highest con, tied with dwarf... (2 dex higher than dwarf, 1 less than elf... 1 str less than dwarf, 3 str higher than elf) So you'll hit -slightly- harder with a dwarf than an orc, but hit way less often... so you end up doing more overall damage. Elf will hit more often than orc, but not nearly as hard. It comes down to a simple numbers game. In all reality, if you play to high levels like me or Sinister, Int/wis only matter for skill speed. And like he said, at high levels, you'll be at 1700 eventually no matter what race you pick, so.... int/wis don't matter. and for damage/tanking.... orcs have it over the rest, hands down. FYI... --Max Fighter Stats-- | Str | Dex | Int | Con | Wis | Orc | 18 | 16 | 12 | 17 | 12 | Dwarf | 19 | 14 | 11 | 17 | 14 | Human | 18 | 15 | 14 | 16 | 13 | Elf | 15 | 17 | 16 | 14 | 13 | Half-Elf | 16 | 15 | 15 | 14 | 15 |
Whee!!!! My first table on Proboards!!!! GO GO Piggy Powah!!! (Yes, I'm easily amused.... )
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Post by orphan on Jul 11, 2009 6:05:32 GMT
Thanks guys, he decided to change his mind and go orc. He just doesn't trust his older brother apparently...
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Post by Pillar on Jul 20, 2009 14:28:52 GMT
I've found a few well-placed punches will solve all your problems as the older brother...
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Post by CalviN on Jul 20, 2009 20:13:11 GMT
That how you keep your girls in line too???
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Post by Pillar on Jul 21, 2009 16:37:08 GMT
Simmah down now!
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