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Post by tuga on Jun 1, 2003 17:44:44 GMT
sounds pretty cool, wolves can rescue now, and do a couple other tricks... alltho going a bit closer to necro ( i never thought balance'd let something like that in)
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Post by Peblo on Jun 2, 2003 10:38:32 GMT
Dogs and wolves which you may encounter during your adventures can be tamed and trained as animal companions. Powerful or unruly wolves are more difficult to tame; high wisdom helps in taming and training such wolves. Once a wolf is tamed, it becomes your follower; it can be commanded to heel, stay, do some basic tricks (speak, roll over, play dead) and attack. You command your wolf verbally; i.e., you say the command, and the wolf listens for your commands. When commanding your wolf to attack, you must first point at the target you want attacked; unless you are already in combat, in which case the wolf will attack whomever you are fighting. You can name your wolf by using a "name" command; e.g., "name fido". The wolf will then only listen for commands which include the wolf's name. You can collar your wolf by giving it a collar, and uncollar it with the "uncollar" command. When you are done with your wolf, you can send it away by saying "go home" or "go away". Trained wolves must be properly fed. They can be fed meat or can occasionally find sustenance by ravaging a corpse. Young or impressionable canines, once tamed by a ranger and given sufficient time to bond with the ranger, will stay with the ranger even through logout unless commanded to "go home" or "go away". In addition, these canines have the ability to learn several new skills if taught properly. The skills available for the dog/wolf to learn are dodge, carry, guard, and rescue, and a ranger may now name specific players as "friend" or "enemy." The wolf can also be told to "ignore" a specific person or item to stop it guarding or change its view on them. These canines can also lie down, sit and stand on command. Dodge: As the dog or wolf grows, it will automatically begin to dodge blows. This defense will continue to rise as the wolf grows stronger.
Carry: At a certain stage in its life a dog or wolf can learn how to "carry" what the ranger points to. For example, if the ranger wants his or her wolf to carry a pack, the ranger would point to the pack, and say the wolf's name followed by the word "carry." This ability will increase in effectiveness as the wolf grows.
Guard: As the wolf grows progressively stronger and larger, it will be able to learn how to "guard" items the ranger wants guarded. The ranger will be able to point at an item, then say the wolf's name and "guard." Example: If your wolf's name is Fred, you will point at the item you'd like Fred to guard, and say, "Fred guard." You can also ask the wolf to "Identify" which objects it may be guarding. Any friend of the wolf will not be prevented from collecting a guarded object. Objects can also be ignored to stop them being guarded.
Rescue: When the dog or wolf has gained efficiency in other things, it will eventually be able to learn how to "rescue" the ranger. All the ranger has to say is the wolf's name followed by the command "rescue." For example: "Fred rescue me." or "Fred rescue."
As with all things, the more time a ranger spends teaching his or her dog/wolf these new abilities, the better it will get at performing them.
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Post by tuga on Jun 2, 2003 13:22:53 GMT
wuh, so i must be wrong, but if you tame a little wolf for example a normal tamed wolf, it'll grow into a enourmous tamed wolf?
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Post by Peblo on Jun 2, 2003 14:06:48 GMT
seems like it... but of what period of time? and how long do u keep the wolf... for all eternity? if so.. start over those ranger alts and work that wolfy
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Post by CalviN on Jun 2, 2003 14:53:37 GMT
All this wolfie stuff sounds really awesome, but I still wanna know.... When's some nice wizzie gonna code me my pet Tiger??
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Post by killcrazy on Jun 2, 2003 21:46:44 GMT
The problem with starting over, is that the wolf will train considerably slower than you will level.
My new alt is now level 10. The wolf is still too young to carry things. You're capable of training a timber wolf and actually getting some skills, but you're stuck coddling something a little smaller than a grey wolf.
You could probably balance this by learning rediculously slow skills as you level. That way, you'll keep an even player level/wolf size. But, you know. Only if you were really foolish.
Curved blade and polearm here I come!
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Post by Peblo on Jun 2, 2003 22:16:54 GMT
sounds like a plan to me hehe
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Post by tuga on Jun 4, 2003 12:47:43 GMT
hey i'm raising cblade with my small ranger, what do you mean slow? it's already at 15 duh
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Post by MaYbe on Jun 5, 2003 18:16:20 GMT
Anyone have any idea how long it takes the wolf to grow?
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Post by Sterling on Jun 6, 2003 9:47:52 GMT
Ok, here's the latest. Tame a wolf that has lvl 5 wis or below and given time (and possibly exp) it will bond with you. Bonded wolves stay with you forever unless they go feral. Wolves grow over time... a very long time. Mine took around 12 hours to go from a trained wolf (lvl 3 wis) to a large trained wolf. If your wolf dies before it becomes large you have to go train a new wolf and start over. If it dies after it becomes large, head on down to the church and wait about 15-20 minutes(ish) and Lars will bring him/her back to you. As your wolf grows it will get a new coat and eye color (mine is silver with ivory marks and an ivory star on the forehead and it has reddish eyes). When you first tame your wolf it will only know basic commands (sit, speak, come, roll over...). As it gets older it will learn dodge. after dodge it will learn ravage, lie down, and friend. All these skills come automaticly as the wolf grows. Eventually your wolf will be able to learn carry from Graddam (e,7n,ne from ranger camp). the more you practice the more likely he is to be able to carry. The bigger he gets the more wieght he can carry. Some time after your wolf is large and has it's new coat fully in your wolf will be able to learn gaurd from norich (11s, 7w, 4s from x) and then sometime after that rescue from Marika (wanders, could be at x, nepeth, neville, ranger camp... not sure of all of them). Wolves grow over time, exp has nothing to do with it. How big your wolf will get, i dunno. Does it depend on your wis, i dunno. I hope this helps to bring everyone up to speed.
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Post by Peblo on Jun 6, 2003 11:07:46 GMT
dang, u have realy worked that wolfy of yours haven't u?
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Post by sinister on Jun 6, 2003 14:50:48 GMT
Disclaimer: I don't know diddly about rangers.
Regarding the new taming bonding of wolves. All you have to do is feed the wolf and make sure it doesn't go feral, right?
So theoretically you don't necessarily have to have it fight etc. Basically idle like a shifter until he gets to be max size (whenever/whatever that is) and then you can use it to fight/bash? Thereby eliminating any possibility of an early death by combat?
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Post by Sterling on Jun 13, 2003 7:01:02 GMT
Yes it's true you could just idle AND feed your wolf and you will eventually get an enormous(sp?) wolf. But the catch is that it will be no better than any unbonded wolf other than it will be able to dodge and it will stay with you through reboot. You have to go out and train skills such as carry, gaurd, and rescue. The more you practice these three skills the better they will get at those three skills. I have a theory that if you have your wolf carry things for long periods of time it will get stronger (increasing it's str) making it better. If you observe your wolf it might say something like this wolf looks a little weak. When you carry for long periods of time it changes to average strength and well toned. I think this is a hint as to what your wolf's strength is. Possibly average str is str normal for that lvl, weak is one lower, and well toned is one higher. The observation also says things such as "moves with practiced ease" or "moves with confidence". i havent figured out what these mean. it also says things like "looks a little thin" or "looks scrawny". some people think this relates to how well fed your wolf is but i haven't noticed these to have any relationship. "moves with..." could be dex and "looks..." could be constisution. who knows. these are my guesses.
Other tidbits... you can train rescue right after your wolf gets huge.
your wolf's coat changes twice from pale with lighter makes to more defined.
your wolf's eyes change 3 times. mine went from plum to reddish to amber. I've noticed that the second color is always "<something>ish".
any wolf under lvl 5 wisdon can be bonded, bonding times range from 5 minutes to 30 minutes. don't be picky about the description of the wolf you tame as it will be erased as soon as you bond.
The only ways you can lose a bonded wolf is if it dies before it grows to large or if you don't feed it and it goes feral... well i guess you could send it away but who would be dumb enough to do that after spending 12 er some odd hours getting it's coat in?
post any other qustions.
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Post by killcrazy on Jun 13, 2003 7:49:31 GMT
My large trained wolf died a couple of days ago. I can't remember the exact message I got, but it was something like 'your heart gets heavy as you realise your wolf won't come back'.
I can only think of two reasons for this - 1) The relatively low wis of my character. Nautica suggested on the ranger board that the eventual size of your wolf depends on your wis, and if that's true, wis might affect whether or not the wolf returns. I had, I think, 9 wis.
2) I hadn't maxed the stats for the wolf since it last 'levelled'. Which probably didn't have an effect on the wolf's survival, but worth mentioning since that was the only other factor that was unusual.
Any thoughts?
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