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Jul 20, 2009 23:27:53 GMT
Post by Blain20 on Jul 20, 2009 23:27:53 GMT
Might as well have a bugs board. Post any bugs you think of (perhaps while you're at work and firewalled off of AA). ;)
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Jul 22, 2009 17:05:52 GMT
Post by orphan on Jul 22, 2009 17:05:52 GMT
I guess I will get this section started. I am not able to log in right now and double check on certain things, but here is what I can think of at the moment:
1) While currently in the middle of training or learning a new shapeshifter form, if you type "train *form" or "learn *form" you get a sensitive mind message.
2) There is a typo in the help files, but I cannot remember where it is. I will find it again soon... they're big lol.
3) I don't know if this is a bug, but if you are in orc/elf/human/h-elf/dwarf form and you are carrying any type of gem (fire gem, etc) and change into a shapeshifter form, you are "Unencumbered" although you were "Slightly encumbered" before changing. *Haven't tested this with items other than gems so far. Although I do recall doing it with a torch too one day when there were no gems.
4) Is Brawl just simply broken? I can fight the same creatures/areas over and over, while steadily advancing brawl to the next level and beyond, and some of the levels actually appear to be worse then the ones before them? However, this is while in a shapeshifter form, maybe there is some sort of interference between the natural brawling abilities of shifters and the learnt Brawl skill. I tested it out several times, and there was a point when brawl 5 was almost identical to Brawl 7... I know people will say combat is random... but really its not, its all algorithms and percentages. Its very consistant, and especially noticable when fighting unarmored/unequipped low-mid level NPC's.
5) Help Shapeshifter files are nonexistant, and incomplete. For example there is absolutely no connecting help file to the "CTitle" command. The only reason I knew it existed was because of Moot's shifter site. I looked through all of the help files and it's not there.
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Jul 22, 2009 23:44:11 GMT
Post by Gromlakh on Jul 22, 2009 23:44:11 GMT
5) Help Shapeshifter files are nonexistant, and incomplete. help shapeshifter : suicide [password] : Remake character as a necro. The file is now complete!
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Jul 23, 2009 2:44:12 GMT
Post by nine on Jul 23, 2009 2:44:12 GMT
the thing about brawl you need to realise is that its extremely old and was designed before the introduction of skills.
it used to be to brawl you had to enter brawl mode, and your brawl skill (plus stats) were the only thing that determined how well you fought
this changed when skills came in because now the unarmed skill plays the major role in determining how well you fight with no weapons. the 'brawl mode' so to speak was removed, ie its automatic with no weapons
now I'm not exactly sure these days what role brawl plays in combination with UA, i've always assumed it makes you hit harder, but UA still determines how often you hit/miss, but I'm not sure about this, because the only chars I ever brawl with have had 10 brawl since like forever
Also, just a quick point about your comment on unarmoured NPCs, keep in mind just because they have no visible armour doesnt mean their AC is 0, often wizards beef up the natural AC of their monsters just to be mean... (or in theme i guess, after all a dragon or golem is going to have naturally high AC)
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Jul 26, 2009 16:00:01 GMT
Post by Blain20 on Jul 26, 2009 16:00:01 GMT
Thanks for the post! 1) While currently in the middle of training or learning a new shapeshifter form, if you type "train *form" or "learn *form" you get a sensitive mind message. I notified the proper folks on this one. 2) There is a typo in the help files, but I cannot remember where it is. I will find it again soon... they're big lol. Please do post if you find it again. 3) I don't know if this is a bug, but if you are in orc/elf/human/h-elf/dwarf form and you are carrying any type of gem (fire gem, etc) and change into a shapeshifter form, you are "Unencumbered" although you were "Slightly encumbered" before changing. *Haven't tested this with items other than gems so far. Although I do recall doing it with a torch too one day when there were no gems. I *think* this is a side effect or unintended feature. 4) Is Brawl just simply broken? I can fight the same creatures/areas over and over, while steadily advancing brawl to the next level and beyond, and some of the levels actually appear to be worse then the ones before them? However, this is while in a shapeshifter form, maybe there is some sort of interference between the natural brawling abilities of shifters and the learnt Brawl skill. I tested it out several times, and there was a point when brawl 5 was almost identical to Brawl 7... I know people will say combat is random... but really its not, its all algorithms and percentages. Its very consistant, and especially noticable when fighting unarmored/unequipped low-mid level NPC's. I doubt brawl comes into play when you're in form. But when you're just nakedly unarmed in normal form, I believe brawl is still active. 5) Help Shapeshifter files are nonexistant, and incomplete. For example there is absolutely no connecting help file to the "CTitle" command. The only reason I knew it existed was because of Moot's shifter site. I looked through all of the help files and it's not there. ctitle? The Chaos guild command? Sorry, but I'm confused on this one.
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Jul 27, 2009 1:26:52 GMT
Post by orphan on Jul 27, 2009 1:26:52 GMT
5) Sorry for the confusion, here's some more information.
Here is the "Help Ctitle" file.
> Command ctitle (max shifters only)
ARGUMENTS <form> <size>
DESCRIPTION This allows a shifter with all forms to change their title to one of the their primary clan or a basic form. This command can only be used when not in a guild.
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Jul 27, 2009 1:29:56 GMT
Post by orphan on Jul 27, 2009 1:29:56 GMT
5) Also, usually at the bottom of the help files, such as Help Forms, or Help Shapes, it says "See Also" and then lists several more commands for you to lookup. Well the 'Ctitle" command is completely unlisted, and you will never have known it existed, unless someone told you about it. It is not included under any of the "See Also" sections.
Also, Help Shapeshifter_Levels is nonexistant too.
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Feb 3, 2010 11:35:45 GMT
Post by Blain20 on Feb 3, 2010 11:35:45 GMT
5) Also, usually at the bottom of the help files, such as Help Forms, or Help Shapes, it says "See Also" and then lists several more commands for you to lookup. Well the 'Ctitle" command is completely unlisted, and you will never have known it existed, unless someone told you about it. It is not included under any of the "See Also" sections. Notified the proper folks on this one. Also, Help Shapeshifter_Levels is nonexistant too. I *think* this was not done because it's so variable. I put in a word just in case, though.
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