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Post by The Abyss on Dec 11, 2003 16:18:05 GMT
With Pris's new equipment and the Armour of Ichor (and recent weight changes?) I was wondering if there has been a change in equipment used to tank. Seeing as this is the cleric board, clerics only.
(No t-hunt stuff as it's too random) Non-unique (and quick/easy enuf to get): Damascene gear, turkey robe, silver shield, golden amulet, garnet ring.
Unique:
Star Armour, Magic Surcoat, Golden Amulet, Flying Shield.
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Post by IvanHood on Dec 11, 2003 17:52:23 GMT
Polished Goblin Shield.....
EWWWW
And why did you mention golden amulet both under non unique and unique ?
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Post by Pillar on Dec 11, 2003 17:53:23 GMT
I know we've already had this discussion before, but I'd take spc before I'd tank with mcoat, if I had the option.
As for non-uniques, I pretty much use the same on my lich as well:
Shiny platemail (stole the idea from Peblo) Gold medallion (from Kresh) Blackcrown Turkey robe Gammy Silver gob (polished)
Ofc, the shiny plate and medallion can be substituted for a fine plate, take yer pick. Also, the reason why I say the plate over the damascene gear is because I haven't had the time to explore this area yet with working full-time and taking night college classes. Bleh ;D
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Post by IvanHood on Dec 11, 2003 17:53:54 GMT
And when I kill resty for his sword, I tend to grab his platemail also Nice having armour that is as polished as my a ss. (hm.. won't let me type that) *shows you his shiny hiney*
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Post by Pillar on Dec 11, 2003 17:56:20 GMT
i would use a silver gob over a, say hoplon, shield is this: - while partying, the weight issue isn't that big of a deal. make your bashers carry some heals. - but, if soloing, use a lighter shield so you can carry your own. *shrug* i'm not saying one way is better than the other.. i'm just saying what i prefer
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Post by Pillar on Dec 11, 2003 17:56:41 GMT
dammit whore, quit posting in front of me!
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Post by CalviN on Dec 11, 2003 21:07:03 GMT
I'd use a silver goblin shield over anything but fshield and shroud, period. Unless I've got the Armor of Ichor and no geo knapsack, soloing, while using a trunk. Then I might think about using something else. *peer* Something about the whole NP block thing while polished and burning less heals... *peer* But that's just personal preference. Why worry about carrying extra heals with more room in your inventory if you don't -need- extra heals, because your shield blocks so much more better. *shrug* You wanna go that route, ranger-made gear is lighter than a fine platemail, so you can carry more heals!! Woo. Hell, for that matter, just get a hjem and 2 knapsacks and tank nekkid... you'll be able to carry so much more heals!!! Seriously, though, if you don't like the 4 weight of a silver gobby shield for the nearly perfect block, a green shield from the EDF at 2 bottles gets you very good block... So it's only 2 steps down the ladder in blockability, but you get to carry around 2-3 more potions or kniggets or chickers (Crutchs for wackos like ivan... ) for the 2 bottles you save in weight. So I guess it depends on what other eq you have, and how much the total eq weight is. If you're so loaded with gear that you can't carry any heals, yeah, use a green shield or something. Otherwise, I don't see the point. You're able to lug around a few extra heals, but with the better blockage, you shouldn't even need the extra heals in the first place. *shrug* I spose this is another version of personal preference, like the whole chicker/whiskey vs. crutch debate.
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Post by IvanHood on Dec 12, 2003 0:00:19 GMT
Hey, I rarely ever use crutch anymore after them new silly nepeth guards came in and decided they didn't want to let me pass them. As for shield, its about tanking style primarly. You oldschool and newschool ppl tank that way, I'll tank the Danishschool way If you carry all your own damn heals (unless when you run across 8 free berries and stuff), then its a huge difference if i can carry 2 more. Then again, I often skip boots and gloves so I can carry move My stupid dwarf with 70ish block and 13 dex cannot block worth crap anyway !! AND 90% of bashers do to crap heals, so I don't bother. AND I'm to lazy to bother spend time with polish and um... I solo most of the time lately, since never much bashage around "If you're so loaded with gear that you can't carry any heals, yeah, use a green shield or something" That is my point !! (that and the lazy part) And guess if I want to use AoI if it dropped down on my head
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Post by CalviN on Dec 12, 2003 14:47:58 GMT
Danishschool.... is that sorta like Donutschool, where you get to learn under a famous pastry chef? I know whacha mean about slow heal droppin/gettin bashers. When I tank, every kill I try to pick up as much of the heals as I can, so I don't have to wait on the basher to pick em up after the kill dies. Unless, of course, you have one of those mythical "good" bashers, that keep checkin the kill until they see almost dead, and snag the heals right before it drops. Then I just let em work it. Of course, with this fokkin two weapon skill bullschmidt, the only alt I've been tanking with is Calvin. *sigh* ffear the fighter tank!!! Unless I have the ultimate tanking eq with a permed armour, I burn potions faster than me and my two bashers can buy the damn things. Though, it is fun, and it's better than bashing for some slow, clueless newb like Pillar. *cower*
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Post by Pillar on Dec 12, 2003 17:35:01 GMT
awwww, you called me "mythical"! ;D
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Post by The Abyss on Mar 31, 2004 8:53:47 GMT
Damascene is nice, anyone ty it on a cleric though? Doesn't seem to be many clerics around anymore...
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Post by FenrilPolar on Mar 31, 2004 9:39:45 GMT
I have a new cleric who's only level 8, but it seems that when I'm on, rarely is there more than 1 other, and sometimes (a little often for my tastes) I'm the only one on... I've noticed the cleric shortage too. There's no one around to teach me the basics of tanking!
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Post by CalviN on Mar 31, 2004 14:46:13 GMT
You don't have to ask a cleric to teach you how to tank with a cleric. Most of the players out there that tank with funky alts, like fighters *cough*, rangers, and paladins, could tank with a cleric in their sleep. It's pretty much the easiest class to tank with in the game. Get good eq like we've been talkin about (and I'll list -MY- favorite non-unique eq set for the hell of it...), get a good shield, get a mace/flail, pack/sack, pipe/tobacco, and some heals.
Heal useage is about the only somewhat tricky thing. Use drinks and food first, until you're just about ex drunk/ex stuffed, THEN use a potion (mental, of course). By the time you've wasted the sps from the pot on fixes, you should be able to eat a knigget or drink a chicker. Try to alternate your kills somewhat, so you don't end up killing 4 lvl 19 npcs in a row. That just ends up making you burn all your potions. Try to hit a lvl 19, then hit a few guards or some 3-6k kills. You'll find that this not only helps you stay non-ex-drunk/stuffed, but also ends up making your party tons of cash. And it really doesn't slow down the exp too much, either.
Another hint, don't wait to drink a pot if you're gonna need it. You're at 78 sps, 80 hps... fix to 28 sps, 154 hps.... you're ex/ex... drink the mental right after you do the fix, so now you're at 112 sps, 154 hps. That way, you don't get caught with your pants down when you get hit with that 70 hps round, and you can just fix, not drink a potion then fix. It prolly won't make you dead, but it will save you from a wimpy or two.
Oh, and ALWAYS make sure that you use your sps for fixes before you eat/drink heals. I can't even count the number of times a tank's been at like 55hps, 170 sps, and eats a knigget instead of using fix. Holy waste of heals, Barman. (Yes, I check pstat to see how the tank's doing like every other round... and yes, it's a habit. shaddup and quit pickin on me!)
Anyyyways. Yeah. Eq stuffs. I personally think the best non-unique set of eq for a cleric is this... (I'm not mentioning Pris' flaw stuff, cuz that can be a pain in the butt to get a whole set. Granted, a set of ghost or absorption eq is way better than what I'm listing, and even damascene is prolly better... but I'm listing easy to get stuff, that you can just kill one npc to get.)
Blackcrown, stone helmet, darkhelm - fine head - weight 2 Zhammar panther's Golden Collar (blessed) - good neck - weight 1 Song-mage's Radiant armour (blessed) - spl hbody, vg arms, legs - weight 5 robe of turkey feathers (blessed) - ap lbody - weight 1 some black leather gloves - good hands - weight 1 some high leather boots - good feet - weight 1 golden amulet (blessed) - weight 1 leather sheath - weight 0 (+1 leg AC) garnet ring/good zarkan ring/whitegolden ring (blessed) - weight 1
Now, with all of this eq, you have a full body set, fine head, spl hbody, ap lbody, vg legs, vg arms, good hands, good feet, a blessed gammy and ring, leather sheath for weightless +1 ac... for a grand total of 13 bottles of weight. Throw in that np block silver gobby with 4 weight, a soft sack/geo knapsack/knigglet pack/charky pack for another 1 weight, and your entire set of eq is 18 bottles. Add a pipe, tobacco, and you should be able to carry a full load of pots, chickers, and knigglets. And the best thing is, you can have a full set of this eq in about 5 minutes if you know what you're doing. (plus blessing time)
Anyways... that's what I almost always get, unless I can get my hands on aog/hoh, ichor, or starry.
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Post by Peblo on Apr 1, 2004 7:02:49 GMT
I also has a bad habit checkin pstat all over the place when bashin so u aren't alone Calvin.. hehe
And darkhelm is 3 bottles *duck*
Gold medallion from mount kresh aren't hard to get... also blessable
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