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Post by IvanHood on Jan 22, 2003 16:40:41 GMT
Seems to me, that a mage without haste is useless in a party, and even with haste, he'll normally just be a pain in the ass. Its quite important to know WHEN and WHO to haste. Hasting vs sati and have no sps for razar is just so dumb, I won't comment.
As for who to haste, if I'm running a party its normally because I wanna run around and kill some npcs, and I'm getting bashers to help do that, NOT to help some lazy mage get faster staff skill. He'll likely skill faster in a party then soloing and hasting himself.
Hastes goes to the biggest basher.. Sometimes to the 2 biggest.
Any elvish kinda mages that can't wield tetsubo will do so bad dmg themself, that even hastes can barely make up (not to mention very expensive). Only exception being mori's mage (haste AND achery, fun) Elf with 99 skill and azy still don't do much dmg.
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Post by sinister on Jan 23, 2003 21:59:59 GMT
I agree. A mage as your only basher is rough on the exp. I never got that chance to party with Moriyokiri, but I think a mage/necro party could be pretty devastating.
Just need to get the timing of the hastes on revenant right though and that is easier said than done.
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Post by Peblo on Jan 23, 2003 22:22:14 GMT
my experience as cleric/necro havin a mage basher (human and with +50 staff had my basher) is all good
as cleric and i'm not that good, but we pulled easy 200k/h and with the necro the fights get so powerful i hardly manage to hang on to the rev when he for example slaughter zernak and manage to take down hawkeye and zeb before haste is over.. but that was with ssm too.. haven't done it so much with dual arrow but i almost manage to take down zernak & hawkeye & zeb on 1 haste too so... ivan i know u good.. but isn't it time for u to stop this F**CKING whining?
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Post by IvanHood on Jan 24, 2003 5:03:41 GMT
Nah, I got much more whining coming up later.
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Post by Peblo on Jan 24, 2003 7:41:53 GMT
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Post by The Abyss on Jan 24, 2003 9:56:29 GMT
I agree. A mage as your only basher is rough on the exp. I never got that chance to party with Moriyokiri, but I think a mage/necro party could be pretty devastating. Just need to get the timing of the hastes on revenant right though and that is easier said than done. I like partying as a necro with Sinius...
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Post by The Abyss on Jan 24, 2003 9:59:54 GMT
Just get some beer for Ivanhood, that will keep him from whining a bit
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Post by Peblo on Jan 24, 2003 10:43:14 GMT
heheh... i'll drive down to denmark and buy him a set then
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Post by tuga on Jan 24, 2003 22:25:41 GMT
buy me too. i like bashing drunk. i dont remember if i like tanking drunk or not.
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Post by IvanHood on Feb 7, 2003 15:30:03 GMT
Beer, where, when, how, why ?
Never mind, I just want some!
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Post by IvanHood on Feb 7, 2003 15:33:18 GMT
I might whine alot of mage bashers, and yet, I still love my own. Human mage with tetsy IS rather nice dmg, they can carry lots in the permed dp, and hastes are handy and the 'right' places.
Talking mages I can only really think of Dooku, and he runs around pretending (with good success) to be a tank.
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Post by Peblo on Feb 8, 2003 17:01:34 GMT
i use to have greystar bashin for me... he at 80 staff usin tetsubo, human... 15 str (base + strength spell = 17 str)
*droool* is the only right thing to say.. heh
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Post by Peblo on Feb 11, 2003 12:35:01 GMT
dooku ssm or kraky... how was it to raise club.. pain in the ass? but then again... u get to be the most wanted basher
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Post by IvanHood on Feb 11, 2003 19:11:59 GMT
In my last party I actually tanked two mages. Greystar who did nice dmg with tetsubo but is out of school and hence can only haste 2 instead of 3 times. Eviltear that wanted to use Glimmer to raise spell hours and hence do bad dmg. Me using my 72 ls (can't hit much with 12 dex) and its a wonder we got to kill stuff. Oh well, I got most of the hastes so that is good for my skillz, then screw only getting 350K inna hour. There are so few 'fun' tanks, I'd actually rather bash for dooku, than tank him (not necesarily bash with Ivan though)
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Rey
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Peace, love and understanding.
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Post by Rey on Jun 1, 2003 13:25:39 GMT
I'd take a mage basher with 60+ staff and haste over a fighter any day of the week.
If you ask me, the ultimate party would be my orc rogue tanking, an orc fighter and an orc mage bashing. Orcs rock.
And glimmer is not THAT much worse than tetty.
Another thing I've found during my X years of tanking is that the exp/hour I manage to pull is more effected by how fast my bashers are on grabbing eq/heals and selling than what weapons they're wielding. As an example, I pull much faster exp having Tanus as my basher wielding dual weeding hooks than some fuckass knigget wielding shadow sword.
And the frustration, the frustration my friends, of having to type out the 'pt Grab eq'/'pt Grab heals' and then having to wait 2-3 seconds after each kill before the slowpoke picks up whatever is lying on the ground.
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