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Post by The Abyss on Jan 7, 2003 10:01:42 GMT
I read that Deathknight was one of the best in his day. Someone told me that he was an old orc fighter (20 str and 20 con) and that when playing he would always get the gauntlets of power(i think this is what they were called) - which gave a str bonus(+3?) - and shadow sword and run around killing like mad. But I think that with that crazy str and what with some of the NPCs like Quildar(sometimes 26k), Mad Prisoner, Lady Theresa, Bulette being worth 9k back then, it would not be too hard to pull good numbers.
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Post by Peblo on Jan 7, 2003 10:44:15 GMT
i have been on AA since like 1998 i think it was... but i can't say i have ever heard of deathknight the characters i have heard the most of is Sinister, Bazhi, Lunger, Blackened (i think) and Berek But they are still "hot" or something like that But now these character have started to die like the rest of us and i myself seems to get better so.. how good are they realy? Do they mostly do it safe? Maybe they do there runs that they have done many many times over and over and that way get good exp and such... i don't know... maybe that's what we others do wrong, we test our limits more maybe?
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Post by ToF on Jan 8, 2003 15:43:33 GMT
I have been on Ancient Anguish for quite a while now. One thing I have noticed is that alot of the older players that were good usually die out. Some of the best fade from existance. Some people choose to wiz (defarge, peavey). Some are here, but in different forms (ie aram of old is lunger of now). Some seem to just linger here from the start, but not many. The best old players are all but virtually non-existant. I must say though that some of the best players now are easy to name. Calvin, Druenarrii, Funkyflea, Peblo, Lunger, Dooku, Utb (yes I am partial to people, everyone is) ToF
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Post by Pillar on Jan 8, 2003 17:13:14 GMT
some of the players you listed as good in this day are pathetic compared to those of old. try as hard as you may, but players now have many advantages the old did not. i'll name a few:
assist: i f**king hate this command. it makes people lazy. bashers don't even have to pay attention any more. bah. the worst thing as a tank is asking your basher to get something and realizing they are afk, even though they are still killing. f**king bots.
follow: bashers can now follow a tank up into hermit area, down ropes, ladders, vines, etc. it's pathetic. that increases the speed of a party drastically. if you have to wait, even 5 seconds, it all adds up and drops your exp/hr.
clients: when i first started playing aa, pretty much everyone i partied with used telnet. if you were lucky, you could get one with an echo. none of this gmud, zmud, wintin, bullnuts.
more kills: players now have a wider base of npc's to kill, more 9k's, etc. even though the player base is the same amount. when i started, 100 players at a time was common. the same holds true now. but, now you have so many more kills. i remember getting so frustrated when everytime i hit an area, it was already cleared. that hardly ever happens anymore.
now, i'm not saying that everyone that plays now uses scripts, triggers, etc. i'm just saying that i think it's a helluva lot easier to play now then it was, say.. 4-5 years ago. i dunno.
yes, there are still some good players. i should make a list (not all of these necessarily play anymore):
bashers: mythomane, ktulu, nanji, calvin, annihilator, claytan, slow, moriyokiri, arenavirus, errinnan
tanks: defiance, bleys, berek, capet, lunger, blackened, bismarck, cult, lunarcee, durk, siege (as necro), falstiffy
i know i forgot some but i'm dumb and old. oh well.
p.
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Post by on Jan 9, 2003 0:02:52 GMT
Well, I been playin since march o 1993... and the best old school players were indeed sick. Sinister and Sigil (Sinister has made a comeback, but he's a necro now) used to rock the mud. The exp they amassed together is disgusting. I don't remember the exact numbers, but they had well upwards of 35 mill back when the minimum to be on the top players list was around 3 million exp.
Gilkumgane was a pretty sick player. I can remember partying with him for hours, and turning over 300k per hour, just the two of us. That doesn't seem like much now, but back then it was unbelievable. Picture the mud, without Drakhiya, Linnhe, Achrya and crew, drute's tomb, elven defence force, and a whole bunch of other newer areas. Then think how fast you'd have to move to clear 300k/hour consistently, with other players and other parties on.
Devious and his alts, tho he's remembered for being a wise ass sker, could rock out some serious exp.
Deathknight was definitely sick. 25 million exp, and when you consider how quickly he made that, and how long ago he stopped playing....
Then there's Terminus et al. Sker, and still managed to be right up at the top of the top players list!!! That's what I call good!
Uggh and Wad used to be an unstoppable force...
Nine/ionstar/bunch of others was a kickass player. He used to tank nekkid with a tree trunk and a shield, and sometimes msur or a black robe, and have one basher, and still manage to break 300k/hour, and make cash.
Can't be forgetting Zordax and his alts. He was a tanking machine!!! He had the top spot for Cleric exp/hour for years, and was the first person to officially break 300k/hour solo (with me second, the same night no less... *wink* )
And mentioning Zordax, you can't forget the man that taught him how to play... Defarge! I don't even want to guess how many millions of exp I got bashing for him. I think 2/3 of Calvin's 57+ mill exp was gotten bashing for Zordax and Defarge... Defarge was just plain sick.
Then there's Bleys, and Lunarcee. Two of the most fun and knowledgable tanks I've ever partied with. (especially Bleys... That Bastard seems to know more about AA and all of the little intricate details in all the areas than the freaking coders do!!)
Blah... I could ramble on all night about good players... old and new. I guess if I had to flip a coin, and pick one of them to be the "best old player".... hrm.... I'd have to go with two choices... Just because I played with him so much.... Defarge.... and for an old school player that's still around and active, Bleys... Of course, I'm biased, but that's why they call it "opinion".
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Post by sinister on Jan 9, 2003 0:29:03 GMT
Envision Marlon Brando's voice in The Godfather Part 1
You all know me.
I agree with what Calvin has said regarding his list, although I regard some of his old school players as new school or at least middle old. Ah, the gift of perspective.
Anyway, with regards to what has been said.
Yeah Deathknight was probably the sickest player cause he amassed well over 25 mil exp when getting 1 mil (just enough to wiz) put you among the top 36. Sigil even suspects Kergen (who was #2 with 5.6 mil) was also a Deathknight alt, making him the only player who may held the #1 and #2 spots at the same time.
His Strategy during the Behemoth Quest was to grab Gauntlets of ogre power (+5 str - 2 dex) and shadow sword (45 total wc) while Changfeng (10 Mil+, #2 before leaving) grabbed Sacramentor (14 wc, 25 parry). Picture a super gilian spitting 100 pts criticals a la Kraky or Azakath. Sure the exp structure for certain monsters was better, but then there was a lot fewer areas, so overall there was less to work with.
re Peblo: Umm, since we are dying out and therefore stinking up the join, don't ask to party with me 8o)
re Tof: Yes, especially to Lunger
re Pillar: Right on brother. f-ing bashers are so lazy now. Look at all the stink my post regarding bashing strategies caused by the assisters. It was a list of common sense items that I would have my party members follow to minimize deaths and maximize exp gather. This is probably the primary reason why I changed to necro. I couldn't handle leading around a new generation of independent minded dullards around. (Machine/Mori excepted)
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Post by Blackened on Jan 9, 2003 15:02:04 GMT
Peblo? (I think)?
Either you've heard I'm good, or you haven't?
My best times were always done with Nanji (I could never figure out how to do eq with my necro), who is always overlooked for top players on the mud. He used to pull the same numbers as all the reputable characters, cept he did it on telnet, so it takes him about 10 seconds or more to get to the next area.
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Post by Pillar on Jan 9, 2003 16:41:19 GMT
as an all-around best player (also including that he still plays -- oh yeah, i'm not politically correct so screw that he/she bullshit), i have two choices:
nanji -- still one of my favorite tanks and bashers. he plays necros, rogues, pallies, mages, and fighters incredibly well. the fact this guy uses telnet and flies around like he does in incredible. to all the bashers out there, party with this dude and see if you can get the jump on him getting eq from a corpse without using a trigger. it's insane.
calvin -- mofo plays all classs/race combos and still pulls as much exp/hr as anyone. plus, he likes piggies... ;D
the reason why i consider these guys my top choices are the fact that they can play any class and do just as well as anyone else on the mud. if blackened ever got off his lazy ass, he might be able to compete with these two, but he's too busy with "school" as he calls it. i know not of this "school" thing but it sounds shitty.
p.
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Post by Pillar on Jan 9, 2003 16:42:20 GMT
yeah, i didn't say nutsty at the end of my last post. i said s-h-i-t, dammit.
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Post by IvanHood on Jan 16, 2003 19:38:59 GMT
Pillar made me (again) wonder about his sanity. Half a year ago on clerics board we were talking about bashers/tanks, and he told me I wasn't any good, now he lists me as a good basher (with a char I suicided because I thought he sucked, Slow) There is sooooo few tanks the slighest interesting, and there is no way, I'll work as a basher, just to be bored. Only time i got 200K+ pr person basher, bored the hell out of me, whereas bashing for Bleys (and only getting about 50-75K) is the funnest shit.
I have only been on AA for like 6 years, and I only recall 2 tanks I really liked. Bleys and Defarge. There would be about 10 more nice tanks, but to avoid forgetting any (and since they pale besides the other 2), I won't mention any.
Talking bashers is much easier, since they pretty much all suck these days. All about dotimes 100 assist, not even bothering to pick up and sell eq. I had 157 different bashers with Ivanhood in 2002 (and more bashers with alts). I only recall Moriyokiri being worth mentioning here.
Most of the cool bashers got their 1600 and stopped, another reason for me to be pissed about skillz. (*mumble dualwielding, a concept I hate*)
Can't we convince ppl that actually working their ass of, helping their tank to kill stuff is fun?
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Post by Cory on Jan 17, 2003 7:27:09 GMT
I think bashers should have to start over after they get 1600 skills, then the best bashers would just keeping going and going, like the energizer bunny.
Cory
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Post by Bashers and Tanks on May 10, 2003 15:53:11 GMT
I'm new to this game, so I can't readily compare anyone, especially since I hardly know anyone. Peblo I have met in the game, and Lunger I know because I was directed to his Nec guide when I informed an aquaintance of mine that I was going to make a Nec.
Now...I'm a newb, so feel free to smite me if this question comes off as stupid, but all these great players, do they all depend on others? As far as running in pairs/groups for some bashing and a tank? Or is it possible to become a stud solo? I'm wondering this because, in spite of the fact that I've partied up a couple times to get some good exp, I've also had a few times where the ally/allies were incompitent and nearly got me killed. So if possible I'd be interested to learn how to be efficient solo.
Thanks, -Angel (Voidheart, Human Paladin) (Flair, Human Necromancer) (Sketch, Elven Fighter)
Quote of the Day: "People are only as smart as you allow them to be in your own mind. But in this, you're also limited by their assuptions on you. Assume intelligence until proven otherwise, and maybe they'll do the same for you."
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Post by Angel on May 10, 2003 15:57:25 GMT
Eh, that last post was me...I apparently wasn't logged in at the time, despite the fact that I thought I was. Also, if you want to find me in the game or arrange to do so, message me on YIM or AOL or MSN or...whatever.
-Angel
Quote of the Day: "Ignorance is bliss? Ignorance is just that...ignorance."
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Post by Machine on May 10, 2003 18:03:29 GMT
I've got mixed feelings on your question, but nonetheless, I'll babble on...
Calvin, Lunger, Nanji, Sinister, Bleys, Druenarrii, and a few others are all really good friends of mine. Every single one of them can, and have, thrown out some crazy stats while going solo, if that's what they wanted to do. Lunger and Sinister, being necros, benefit more from solo'n as opposed to taking a basher, so naturally they're going to log some psycho xp and coins per hour, but they do equally as well with bashers. Calvin and Nanji are awesome bashers as well as tanks, with alts of course. Being a pretty below average tank myself, if I had these two bashing, my party's exp/hr would be greatly higher then if I had two no-namers bashing. They're fast, they're knowledgable, and they know what to do, when to do it, and why. Then you've got Druenarrii. This sick fu<K tanks as a paladin, and does pretty damn well. He's lost more xp in deaths then most ppl have earned. He's prolly killed some of the most psycho kills, like Cerynax (or however you spell it) more than anyone on the game, I'd be willing to bet.
All these players are extremely good, and very capable of being extremely good by themselves, but why play alone? Soloing is pretty damn boring. I party all the damn time with Lunger, Dru, Sini, Calvin, and Nanji. We party for the company mainly, I think. It's fun to party with a good bud, maim the mud and make huge profits.
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Post by Machine on May 10, 2003 18:09:24 GMT
Here's a good example I just remembered...
Lunger, Druenarrii and I were helping Calvin prepare for his HOH xp/hr attempt. I stocked hunga-mungas, Lunger stocked potions and elixirs, and I think Dru made gates with his mage. Then, for the run, I followed Calvin barking out what we needed more of to Dru's mage while passing him mungas as he needed. Dru's mage would be tp'n back and forth ferrying heals and hasting Calvin when he could. Or maybe there was another hasting mage, I forget.
What I do remember though, is afterwards, Calvin still had like 50-100 some dar red potions. Calvin said anyone who wanted to, could use them. So, Dru logs out his mage and in his pally, grabs some invites and just starts running in and out every couple minutes while Lunger, Calvin and I talk about the run. After I while, I got a little annoyed with seeing "Druenarrii enters hall/Druenarrii takes 20 dark red potions/Druenarrii leaves hall" every other minute, so I asked wtf he was doing. Few mins later...
Druenarrii tells you: 300k/45 mins
Or something similar. He's nuts.
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