|
Post by sinister on Apr 21, 2003 1:33:38 GMT
I couldn't finish Calvin's long winded (reminds me of a Sigil email) post but get resists, here's why.
While, Calvin is right that in a total session the AC increase will cause you to take overall less total damage. Spell casters do their damage in concentrated blasts (example Razar) and therefore you decrease your chances of dying with special resistances.
Usual case of super damage from a heavy hitter like Hawkeye is a wimpy. Usual case of super damage from a fireball from Razar, lose 1/3 exp and 1 from all 5 stats.
|
|
|
Post by CalviN on Apr 21, 2003 14:38:52 GMT
The man's got a point. And who you callin long winded??? I usually go for the AC boosters... but that doesn't mean that I completely ignore resistances. I'll take a garnet ring or one of the cold/fire resistance rings if I can't get one of the prot/regen ones. I'll still take silver gob over wiggy any day, tho. When I'm tankin with a cleric, I always use the appropriate pray cold/fire spells on any of the big baddie spellcasters. That usually gives you a decent jump in resistance for a while, and makes the fight not hurt so much. If you're a rogue tank, you can always get a cleric to pray them both on you a few times, and it lasts for quite a while. Methinks magelings have a protection from elements spell which does the same thing... *ponder* Can't it be permed too? Although getting 3 perms might be kind of spendy... *shrug* --CalviN and HobbEs (Rookie Basher) <-- Long winded, according to some decrepit old fogies...
|
|
|
Post by sinister on Apr 21, 2003 15:35:01 GMT
Hahahah.
Dude, read your last post. Here's a short version of what you said:
AC bonuses are better because there aren't too many monsters that casts specials relative to all the monsters that deal regular damage. Therefore you'll take overall less total damagein a single exp session if you use AC boosters vs. resists.
I believe that explains everything.
So, I'm calling you ;D long winded, my man.
|
|
|
Post by CalviN on Apr 21, 2003 20:14:03 GMT
Blah. I could've said that in 3 sentences or less, like you just did... but, I was at work, and - VERY- bored!!! Besides, if I just said it like you did, everyone reading this board would be forced to take what I said as being true just because I said it. So I added in a little reasoning and number crunchage to make it more verifiable. (oh, by the way, I LOVE the auto-censor thingy... it turns $lut into "very *friendly* person" !!! hehehe) *just typed every swear word and slang term I could think of and previewed it... some of em are FUNNY*
|
|
|
Post by sinister on Apr 22, 2003 3:47:01 GMT
Hmmm and I quote:
"Blah. I could've said that in 3 sentences or less, like you just did... "
Well, isn't that what long winded means? Give it up!! I got you here on this point old man.
Besides while you are one of the be all end all guys, I disagree and that is enough to bring about a healthy discussion. Nevertheless, if one is willing to accept a greater chance of dying to take total less overall hps, you AC booster method is better.
Me? I'm tired of all the death whining on the sline.
|
|
|
Post by CalviN on Apr 22, 2003 13:01:00 GMT
Ok, ok. So I'm long winded. *peer* And as to all the whining on the sline about death... Newport isn't logged in THAT often, is he?? hehehe *duck* (I spose we'll find out if he reads these boards now, eh?? )
|
|
|
Post by Machine on Apr 23, 2003 2:14:20 GMT
*xlaugh*
|
|
|
Post by Lanstro on Apr 16, 2004 13:18:07 GMT
Well i'm going to stray down the other path here. If i have no other source of resistances, i'd always take black robe over turkey feather.
Why? Not for the sake of efficiency like in calvin's analysis above. For survival.
When you're tanking, your best physical-damage dealing npc, Hawkeye, can only do maybe 45 damage to you in a round max (if you're fully armoured up). Now we're lucky enough that these really hard hitters generally don't cast spell as well (with the exception of razar). Now unless you're a suicidal tank, a stand alone 45 damage hit probably wouldn't make you wimpy, let alone kill you. However, even the humble sage is able to hit you for a whopping 50ish damage if you don't have resistances. We've all had holocaust spirit do a surprise fire thing on us and take us down 50 odd hit points. Coupled with a lucky bonecrush and you've more than likely wimpied. (or worse yet, died). That's potential for 70 odd damage in one hit. How many times do you hit 70 odd hit points tanking magic casters? plenty i'm sure. Black robe would provide that extra 5 or 10 hit points buffer for you to escape with your life.
Or maybe i'm just too afraid of lag bursts..hmm
|
|
Moo
Stableboy
Posts: 20
|
Post by Moo on Jul 6, 2004 9:00:09 GMT
My fav tanking EQ(non unique)
Radiant Armour(blessed) Stone Helmet/Blackcrown(blessable?) Golden Collar(blessed) Robe of Turkey Feathers(blessed) boots/gloves from Captain and Lieutenant in Delair Silver Goblin Shield(polished) Also with gammy if possible + whatever the best ring i get from Zarkan
Fav tanking EQ(low damage party) Star Armour SPC Gammy Fshield
With really high damage powerparty Replace starry with ichor, and almost never have to use heals, even though i lub my star armour.
|
|
|
Post by IvanHood on Jul 6, 2004 12:07:10 GMT
"With really high damage powerparty Replace starry with ichor, and almost never have to use heals, even though i lub my star armour. " Sounds like you are one of them ppl killing hermit, fairy queen etc over and over.... and not as much one that goes for the tuff kills. Personally I am lazy, so I'd pick any platemail over the radiant, because I WILL forget to sing. And that silver goblin shield will be to heavy for me as long as I have to carry meat outside pack. And with AoI AND goblin shield = a Dane that has to be hungry
|
|
|
Post by Machine on Jul 6, 2004 17:49:51 GMT
Golden collar is crap.
Strangely patterend cloak is crap.
And no, I won't say what's better and to replace it with. Last time I shared opinions and eval facts, stuff got downgraded. Gogo teh devolution of everything eventually becoming all adq/fine!
|
|
Moo
Stableboy
Posts: 20
|
Post by Moo on Jul 6, 2004 23:57:11 GMT
"With really high damage powerparty Replace starry with ichor, and almost never have to use heals, even though i lub my star armour. " Sounds like you are one of them ppl killing hermit, fairy queen etc over and over.... and not as much one that goes for the tuff kills. Personally I am lazy, so I'd pick any platemail over the radiant, because I WILL forget to sing. And that silver goblin shield will be to heavy for me as long as I have to carry meat outside pack. And with AoI AND goblin shield = a Dane that has to be hungry No, I'm not just killing hermit/fairy queen over and over. There is no way I will ever use AOI with Goblin, granted goblin is also a heavy bitch, only with radiant, and maybe star. I am pretty obsessive about singing to my armour and making sure it's okay, so that's not really a problem to me. I think spiked collar might be better than golden, but it does change the huge dragon sometimes(not like that is a huge burden). As for the kinds of kills I do, it depends on who is in my party. If my bashers suck I won't do too many heal sucking kills, since they make me completely drunk/stuffed and then i have to resort to using too many potions. If I have 1 or 2 fighters with high skill then AOI usually works really well, since you are killing stuff pretty fast.
|
|
|
Post by Machine on Jul 7, 2004 0:57:06 GMT
"There is no way I will ever use AOI with Goblin, granted goblin is also a heavy pregnant dog, only with radiant, and maybe star."
So radiant armour is a definate, but Star Armour is only a maybe. That's funny, because a full pieced set weighs more than Star Armour.
Ahh, today's Scythe quality at it's finest.
|
|
|
Post by tuga on Jul 7, 2004 6:31:52 GMT
and spiked collar isn't quite it either. try harder
|
|
Moo
Stableboy
Posts: 20
|
Post by Moo on Jul 7, 2004 7:58:14 GMT
Shrug, and I actually left the scythe. Sorry for not calculating the exact weights. or knowing them... but oh well. I just assumed starry was heavier but guess I was wrong. Either way, at least i know more in the process of you guys correcting(or insulting) me.. either way. Not that I actually count the weights of everything, since I don't care that much. Radiant with whatever else just seemed lighter to me.
|
|