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Post by Pillar on Apr 22, 2004 15:43:50 GMT
don't know if this has been posted before but here it is anyways.. i was bored today, as you can see for the first table, we have the school listed then the study hours to complete them. they are all listed for out-of-school costs. Basic | 3304 | Alteration | 93600 | Conjuration | 84800 | Invocation | 85800 | Drowgar | 87300 |
next, we have the study hour costs for an in-school mage and to learn the remaining non-school spells: No School | 354804 | Alteration | 308004 | Conjuration | 312404 | Invocation | 311904 | Drowgar | 311154 |
the last table lists the experience necessary to learn all the spells (by school) given the ratio of 30/1 exp/study hour: No School | 10644120 | Alteration | 9240120 | Conjuration | 9372120 | Invocation | 9357120 | Drowgar | 9334620 |
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Post by Peblo on Apr 22, 2004 15:45:45 GMT
huh?
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Post by Pillar on Apr 22, 2004 16:22:32 GMT
messed up the tables.. now check it..
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Post by Pillar on May 6, 2004 15:28:31 GMT
k, my orc fighter shimmy is going to be changed over to mage. i am raising mms, staff, knife, and tw. correct me if i am wrong.. if i take a fighter and switch him to mage at 3 mill exp, my exp totals would drop to 2 mill. 2 mill/30=study hours gained? so, approx 66,667.
here are the spells i want to learn and their cost as an alt mage:
pm 9000 hs 6300 tp 5000 dp 4500 es 4000 st 2500 ss 1100 hf 2200 aa 7000 am 5000 ck 6000 ln 8000 dd 20000 sp 4000 vs 7000 li 1 id 5 mk 10 kn 80 rt 100 sy 300 pe 700
total: 92,796 exp necessary: 2,783,880 exp necessary as fighter before switching: 4,175,820
what do you all think?
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Post by CalviN on May 6, 2004 18:00:35 GMT
Looks pretty good. I'm not positive on the numbers, but they look ok. Idle curiosity, but why did ya leave out gate and enhance magic? If you want to make portals to eldar tea room, knigglet central, etc, gate is a much better spell to use, since a dimension door will allow elfdars to come back into the Scythe den (or wherever you cast the dd.) dd is useful for things like making portals between the hall of heros and tant, etc. But for other stuff it's not the best.
And enhance magic is a much more efficient way of doing the hastemage thing. Cast haste on big-bad-basher, cast em haste big-bad-basher, repeat until no sps... then they're hasted for a while. Sps cost is much less for em than haste... *shrug*
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Post by Pillar on May 6, 2004 18:15:52 GMT
let's see.. cost for em in school would be 2200. cost for gate out of school is 14000. minus the dd spell from earlier (20000).. that subtracts 3800 study hours from my total.. 114000 from my exp.. deal.
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Post by Machine on May 6, 2004 21:21:26 GMT
Not to mention Elfdars can dispel permed dimdoors at the tea room, and are known to do it very often if given the chance.
They think just because they have bigger ears than everyone else that they're the only ones who enjoy the taste of tea.
*snort*
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Post by CalviN on May 7, 2004 12:47:33 GMT
Funny... I woulda thought it was because they have their noses so high in the air, like the prototypical English snob. (Well, Lunger at least... I can't speak for all of the lil elfies.) *duck* *cower* *hide*
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Post by Aurac on May 7, 2004 14:04:49 GMT
When Spock creates the one-way doors from cboard to Elfdar, a certain Elf logs in his Chaoser mage and dispells the gate in the Chaos guild.
--Aurac
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Post by CalviN on May 7, 2004 14:26:03 GMT
Idle curiosity, but isn't that multi-playing? Logging in with elfdar alt, seeing Chaos wanks showing up in fairy-central, logging out elfdar alt, logging in chaos wank mageling, dispelling gate, logging back in elfdar alt and laughing about it with other pointy-eared snacks while madly humping away at trees. *ponder*
Sure sounds like helping out one alt with another to me. *shrug*
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Post by Pillar on May 7, 2004 19:45:36 GMT
i don't think so.. it's no different than a basher logging in a cleric after a party and purging the tank. or wandering around with a lowbie, seeing that sanal is alive, and logging in an alt to kill it. it's all the same in my book. whatever you do as an alt always affects what you do with others. for example, i want to know where elvie is. can i log in my chaoser, bear, eldar, knigget, monk, and raven to find its location? and when i do, have a friend get it out for me? it's something that everyone does.
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Post by CalviN on May 7, 2004 20:52:45 GMT
Something "everybody does" and being "legal" are two entirely different things. Just because law hasn't ever cracked down on things like that, don't mean they can't, or won't in the future. Look at Malire's post on the Senate board the other day. And that's something that "everybody does". And they've banished someone we all know and love (twice, no less) for something very similiar to what you described as an example. (Of course, in their case, it was using their wizard to see if a certain unique(s) was in mortal hands, or on the NPC, and then loggin in their mortal to go kill for it.) A basher purging their tank -after- the party directly benefits the tank... not the basher. That's why they don't crack down on that, yet they do crack down on the basher quitting mid-party, loggin in cleric and purging, then relogging basher and resuming the party. *shrug* Of course, I ain't Law. And I don't really care either way. As long as you don't find the hard edge of that wide, fuzzy grey line we call Law, no harm, no foul. I was just posting to bust Aurac's nuts a little. By logging in a mageling to dispel a chaos gate to elfdar teas, he's basically emulating the Knigglets. Maybe he should petition for Namril to start patrolling the Elfdar guild to dispel Dimension Doors like Zarkan does, and maybe even long-distance dispel gates to the tea room that are in other guilds.
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Post by Aurac on May 8, 2004 1:06:50 GMT
I was just posting to bust Aurac's nuts a little. By logging in a mageling to dispel a chaos gate to elfdar teas, he's basically emulating the Knigglets. Maybe he should petition for Namril to start patrolling the Elfdar guild to dispel Dimension Doors like Zarkan does, and maybe even long-distance dispel gates to the tea room that are in other guilds. Say wha--? I'm not that mage I was talking about, thankyouverymuch. I was in Chaos at the time this was happening and Spock and I snarled over it. Anyway, the person I was referring to has recently suicided both characters, so I'll go ahead and say who it was. Apok/Lusiphur. As far as legality, I would imagine that Law would find it illegal since Apok benefits from Lusiphur's actions in that Apok can idle at the Eldar board without being stolen from by nearyly every rogue in the game via the door. And this illegality is kinda why I even mentioned it. =) --Aurac
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Post by CalviN on May 10, 2004 15:15:00 GMT
Ahhhhh glasshoppah. I thought you were talking about your elf mageling alt, not someone elses. *peer* My bad. (And to add insult to injury, it was apok/loosifur that I had you mistook for. Sorry man!!!!)
And as to the wizard checking uniques thingie and the warning for apprentices... that probably got added into the game as a direct result of them having to banish the wiz I mentioned twice for it. *shrug* And I was a wizard long before that happened the second time.
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Post by Aurac on May 10, 2004 19:37:46 GMT
Ahhhhh glasshoppah. I thought you were talking about your elf mageling alt, not someone elses. *peer* My bad. (And to add insult to injury, it was apok/loosifur that I had you mistook for. Sorry man!!!!) You. Mistook. Me. For. Apok/Lusiphur. I hope you and all of your future piglings die of old age!!! *curses* I am Blain and Aurac and that one other very secret tiny little fighter orc you know about that's a secret. Yeah, him. Otherwise, you don't know the rest of my frozen-but-not-forgotten alts *sniff*. And besides, how in theeeee fark can you mistake me for being Apok?! Pfffft. --Aurac
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